Gw2 Jade Sea Is Water Again
Back in Middle of the Northward, the manual hinted that the Jade Sea seems to accept been beginning to thaw. This was further alluded to in Winds of Change. Withal, with the Festival of the Four Winds and the Zephyrites many Canthan-like decorations, I noticed one that'due south in apparently sight withal rather hard to catch due to existence darker and in a corner of sorts.
It is a jade statue of a fish. This holds significance in two ways:
- It farther cements the notion that Zephyrites just came from Cantha – pretty much confirms it IMO, since information technology is merely like the Solid Body of water Fractal, and the Jade Body of water is the merely known place to hold such large jade stones.
- It indicates that the Jade Sea is not fully thawed even 250 years after the hints of thawing (if not thawed much at all).
Screenshot of statue in attachments. What do you all think this can mean?
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Talking with one of the offset NPC when you arrive from LA, she gives a lot of hints that they went to Cantha and the decoration idea came was based from there.
Also, even in GW1 there was The Jade Quarry, that jade wasn't sea water that turned past the Jade Wind, that was only regular jade, then that statue could be fabricated of regular jade.
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The Jade Quarry was indeed part of the Jade Sea that was solidified by the Jade Wind. It was in fact the purest of the Jade made by that event. And I am well aware of Fade at the bottom of the docks, as I even alluded to his (it is a male person NPC, not female person – he merely has a femenine wait) dialogue.
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I just noticed that was you lot that made the OP after I posted, so I would assume that yous knew almost the NPC (I'k amazed it is a male person haha), and I could skip that part
In that location are some items made of jade and too the crafting item jadeite shard in GW1, those are probably jade from the quarry and non from the water turned into jade and probable same fabric used in that statue.
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The jade from the quarry is water turned into jade.
As for what it ways, I'd guess that the Jade Sea didn't thaw. Dissimilar the Echovald Woods, the reported changes in the Sea were "unsubstantiated rumor at best." It could hands plough out that the belief that the jade would thaw was just wishful thinking.
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Outset thing that came to my heed: how the hell does jade thaw?!
First thing that came to my heed: how the hell does jade thaw?!
Aforementioned mode water petrifies? Only in reverse.
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I guess we won't really know until we head to Cantha for ourselves. My guess is that the areas farthest from the Harvest Temple might be undergoing thawing, but the closer we become to the epicenter, the more lingering magic from Shiro'due south scream remains.
Marjory also mentions the decorations are very much similar ones her parents got from her grandparents… and she's canthan descended.
IMO, I think Jade that was mined, removed from the ocean, and carved (or left like that) remained as jade. However the jade in the sea itself slowly started reverting to water.
Grade, that'd be interesting as it'due south one-half and one-half near the creatures within the jade. They could be expressionless, or they could but be frozen… cause we see some leviathans (canthan/jade sea origin leviathan, non Krytan/sea of sorrows leviathan) burst from Jade chunks and are perfectly fine.
At that place are some items made of jade and also the crafting detail jadeite shard in GW1, those are probably jade from the quarry and not from the h2o turned into jade and probable same material used in that statue.
You clearly didn't read my response to you in full.
The Jade Quarry is frozen Jade Body of water. The shore of information technology, specifically speaking. To quote from the outpost description:
"Although the Jade Bounding main more than lives up to its name, the jade that makes upward its petrified waves is not necessarily of the all-time quality. The Jade Quarry has been literally carved from the stretch of seabed that contains the finest and most valuable jade derived from the mineralized bodies of countless sea creatures. Mining in the Jade Quarry is extremely dangerous, equally the Kurzicks and Luxons are well-nigh constantly fighting over this valuable resources."
First matter that came to my mind: how the hell does jade thaw?!
Same manner water ice melts – in this instance – since though it is called jade, it is literally just petrified water (as opposed to frozen). Or the same way metallic would cook when heated loftier enough – it turns to liquid.
IMO, I remember Jade that was mined, removed from the body of water, and carved (or left like that) remained as jade. Withal the jade in the body of water itself slowly started reverting to water.
How does that work? Information technology's still jade, some of it is but mined out while the balance isn't. Aforementioned materials, aforementioned magic affected it.
Only way it'd piece of work is if Canthans are actively using magic to keep it jade, rather than letting it thaw "naturally".
Afterwards all, there were quite a lot of statues and other art objects using that jade for materials.
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Or information technology was a sort of side effect in that region only. IE, the magic of the death wail was fading from the Jade sea, and the jade within slowly turned back to h2o. But jade outside remained Jade.
OR, not the entire Jade ocean turned back to h2o. Maybe only a section of it did, and certain areas remain as Jade. Or peradventure it didn't plough back to h2o at all, and the h2o was caused by something else.
Or, entirely every bit y'all said, Canthans figured out a way to keep it as jade, magic or otherwise upon carving.
That start scenario would brand sense but if the jade removed from the region thawed faster.
I can bladder for "only a section of it did" – I've personally been a fan of the idea that the jade is thawing so slowly that now, in GW2's time, we have behemothic iceberg-like blocks of jade throughout the Jade Ocean.
With statues, it would make sense that they learned to freeze it perpetually/with maintenance.
Merely yet, the notion that "it isn't thawing, and the rumors are false" still hangs in the air. And I wouldn't mind that either, considering the jade statues were one of my favorite aesthetics of Cantha.
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It is entirely possible that the Jade Sea is not thawing at all, and people are simply misinterpreting increased amounts of real h2o in the Jade Sea (from hundreds of years of atmospheric precipitation and runoff) as the sea thawing, when it actually isn't the case at all.
Information technology could brand mining the jade increasingly difficult as water levels rise though.
The rumors of thawing Jade Sea is not simply in pools of water on the surface, but that in that location's moving water beneath the Jade. And so rather than it being rainfall and whatnot (which should have been so commonplace given 200 years of frozen sea), it would be more than probable if the water just froze and so far down, and the Luxons just mined far down enough.
Edit: For reference sake, the lines of the rumors:
"Over the past few years, life has begun to leap upwardly in Echovald Woods as many areas accept seen new growth take hold. Some fifty-fifty claim to have seen a modify in the Jade Sea—small pools of water forming or even waves moving beneath the frozen surface—but these reports are unsubstantiated rumors at all-time."
Kurzick Peasant i: "I wonder…With the Afflicted gone, volition the wood begin to heal itself?"
Kurzick Peasant ii: "I am certain that it will, but the question is: what happens because of information technology?"
Kurzick Peasant 1: "What practice you mean?"
Kurzick Peasant 2: "Retrieve of it this way: Our people have adjusted to life in these petrified forest. New life and new creatures have plant their homes here. What happens when all of that changes?"
Kurzick Peasant 1: "I meet your bespeak. Simply there's one thing we can take comfort in. While our people may have tough changes alee of them, information technology's nothing compared to the Luxons."
Kurzick Peasant two: "When the Jade Sea thaws, the lot of them volition just sink!"
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Get-go matter that came to my mind: how the hell does jade thaw?!
Same way water petrifies? Only in reverse.
Yes but Jade is not a natural form of water. Right me if I'm wrong but isn't the jade body of water h2o that was transformed into jade trough magic? It seems weird to me that magical jade only naturally thaws into water, without any changes in heath or pressure that we know of.
It would seem logical to me if the magic that caused the transformation was stored inside the jade and is now seeping out, reversing the change.
If thats correct, nosotros can probably speculate untill we can tie bubbles to the thawing…
A simple thought, just 1 I call back should probably be mentioned, is that possibly jade already existed before the coincidentally named Jade Sea. But because the sea turned into jade, doesn't necessarily hateful that it'south the merely source of jade in Cantha. They named the body of water Later jade, fifty-fifty before it ironically became jade, and so the name came from something. Perhaps the statue is simply fabricated of plane ordinary jade and not the jade that was formerly a sea.
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I've always been curious about the Jade Sea and how it was used past the Luxons, how they adapted to the sea irresolute their habitat.
Before the Jade Current of air turned it to solid Jade, the sea was a normal watery bounding main and the Luxons had to alter their merchandise as a typical seafaring nation of merchants to existence more than stationary and turned to jade mining.
The sea was called the Jade Ocean before the Jade Wind turned it to Jade, in fact, everyone was surprised it wasn't turned to frozen water ice (which yous'd look of solidified water) only instead solid jade. There was magic involved with the transformation; so if the jade sea ever is to thaw over again, will it return to h2o? Volition it become a gooey of minerals on the seabed and the bounding main will just have dried out…?
The quotes of those Kurzick peasants is odd though, of course, yes, the Luxon settlements – like all those structures in Cavalon, Seafarer's Balance, etc. will just sink and most likely the behemothic crabs, simply many of the Luxon homes are too their old armada that was frozen in identify. I'd expect those ships to float in the water if the jade was ever to thaw. And then, depending on how speedily the Jade Bounding main would contrary its transformation (thaw slowly? or in an instant with a reversal of the Jade Wind), the Luxons might have time to evacuate on board their ships.
I would really like a GW2 return to Cantha to touch on this as a cataclysmic event; the Jade Body of water returning to its original watery grade every bit function of a campaign there.
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Is information technology possible that when the sea was turned to jade it was infused with magic, and that magic keeps it jade? And that information technology is slowly reverting dorsum to water since the magic is beingness drawn out / consumed past something (cough elder dragon cough)
Just a random idea I had
Most of the ships had hull breaches or damage from the suddenly air current and/or the water turning to jade and hit the hull.
Though yeah, I could buy that simply so deep (withal a hefty distance though) was turned to Jade, and the Luxons simply got deep enough in one-ii spots to see the water. Pools of h2o may have just been areas that got heavy rainfall and the water started to grade ponds and such.
The forest is a unlike affair, considering fifty-fifty when chunks of it were stone there was plant life growing. I call back the ground might heal (or at least start getting enough dirt/soil to support life) but the trees remaining equally rock. Or but plants adapted to the stone… cause I mean, even in factions the forest was pretty lively at the bottom with lots of plant life <_<.
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Is it possible that when the bounding main was turned to jade it was infused with magic, and that magic keeps it jade? And that it is slowly reverting back to water since the magic is being drawn out / consumed by something (cough elder dragon cough)
Just a random idea I had
That's what I was saying
I retrieve to only logical way for jade to thaw into water is if the magic is wearing of.
And bubbling could be a suspect.
Did the bounding main begin to thaw considering Shiro died or was information technology simply considering so much time had passed since the Jade Current of air information technology began to naturally lose it'due south power? Does thawed jade return to water or did the Jade Wind permanently change it'south composition to become something else?
The trivial bit of info we get postal service Factions about it suggests to me that the jade is turning back into h2o, and so there must be some magical procedure going on in Cantha that is working on the jade. Either the magic of the Jade Wind lingered in the Jade Sea subsequently Shiro's death and was but purged from the land when he died, or it was going to misemploy anyway.
Knowing how Elderberry Dragons consume magic, what if the Jade Ocean was returning to h2o not because of Shiro'southward death and the curse being lifted, merely because something was consuming the magic of the Jade Current of air that was causing it to remain jade? This would mean that any jade that was removed from the sea keeps its shape (and that explains why a jade sculpture survives today) merely the jade in the Jade Bounding main is beingness tuckered of its magic past an Elder Dragon "lifting the curse" of the Jade Current of air and causing it to return to normal.
I do similar the idea of Canthans learning to harness the latent powers of the Jade Air current or emulate it in some fashion. The thawing of the jade could exist a natural process as Konig suggested (no dragon involved) and Canthan magic users can somehow maintain jade/petrified rock if they desire to. I wouldn't get as well invested in the thought of a human-centric present day Cantha. While nosotros may see a lot of humans bunkered downwardly in Kaineng City, I suspect the Echovald Woods and Jade Sea take get the domain of other creatures.
I would similar to reiterate that at that place is aught definitively maxim that the Jade Bounding main always began to thaw. In Factions, and fifty-fifty Winds of Alter, information technology was only hearsay and speculation. There was no bear witness to information technology, just wishful thinking that things might return to normal.
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I would similar to reiterate that in that location is nothing definitively maxim that the Jade Body of water ever began to thaw. In Factions, and fifty-fifty Winds of Change, it was just hearsay and speculation. There was no evidence to it, just wishful thinking that things might return to normal.
Indeed. And the talk about the Forest healing was just talk. Nothing indicated the stone was turning dorsum… the woods just had regrown a lot of constitute life at the ground level.
It was HINTED at happening, but never confirmed or shown.
i'd imagine the thawing is an extremely slow process, one that at near has formed some lakes throughout the sea, but nix more than. retrieve globe's polar caps.
and since jade isn't ice, the temperature doesn't touch its speed, then they tin can accept that statue wherever the hell they want, and while it is slowly "melting", the process is probable so slow that y'all'd at most notice a few details have been lost later a couple years.
speculation aside, i kinda want the jade ocean to remain frozen past the time nosotros see it in GW2, merely i also kinda desire it fully thawed, if only to run across such a huge watery expanse up for exploration (with perhaps giant underwater jade chunks still persisting). every bit for the echovald forest… well, it never looked that cursed to me. looked like a normal, mossy forest with some goths living in it. so whether information technology reverts or stays stone is indifferent to me.
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One thing I was thinking is the Luxons could create lakes and rivers in the jade body of water. Mine jade to course a canyon, fill the canyon with water to form a river… same affair for lakes.
But yeah, the process (if happening) would be and then gradual Luxons wouldn't be threatened at all… they'd have time to motility settlements and build boats before it happens.
The way I see it is that Shiro's expletive still has lingering after effects – some that merely but can't be cured even with the removal of the curse. Powerful magic go out lasting marks even long after the magic has faded, then it may be that the jade ocean will be more similar canyons and ridges with water flowing through them rather than thawing out completely. same with the echovald forest – many trees remain petrified even though new found life begins to grow.
A uncomplicated idea, but 1 I think should probably be mentioned, is that maybe jade already existed before the coincidentally named Jade Ocean. Simply because the bounding main turned into jade, doesn't necessarily mean that it's the merely source of jade in Cantha. They named the sea AFTER jade, fifty-fifty before it ironically became jade, then the proper name came from something. Mayhap the statue is merely made of airplane ordinary jade and non the jade that was formerly a ocean.
This is the best answer. Why? Because if the bounding main is going to "thaw" or has thawed and then that statue wouldn't exist anymore if it was from the jade in the sea. Deduction: The statue isn't made out of Sea Jade, but jade that has been and always will be jade.
side note: I don't like the term "thaw" for the description of what the sae volition do when it turns from jade back into water because thawing is the procedure of a liquid losing it's frozen form and returning into a liquid country from a frozen country. They should use a made upwardly Asura term for something returning into a liquid from just a hardened state.
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Well, proceed in listen that thaw comes from GW1. There were no asura in Factions, and asura were very new to the surface in EotN and had no reason to be interested in Cantha. Why would they accept developed a term for it at that point?
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Liquidification if y'all must. The opposite of solidification. :P
Or "melting".
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Alright, the jade from Jade Quarry may be from the Jade Air current, but the jade in Aurios Mines may be prior to the Jade Wind, correct?
I refuse to believe that 100% of the jade from the Jade Bounding main region come up from the effect of the Jade Air current, if both Jade Quarry and Aurios Mines jade aren't real, where the jade came from before the Jade Wind?
(the number of "jade" used in this post is over 9000)
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Alright, the jade from Jade Quarry may be from the Jade Wind, merely the jade in Aurios Mines may exist prior to the Jade Wind, correct?
I refuse to believe that 100% of the jade from the Jade Bounding main region come from the effect of the Jade Wind, if both Jade Quarry and Aurios Mines jade aren't existent, where the jade came from before the Jade Current of air?(the number of "jade" used in this mail service is over 9000)
something i think it'south worth bringing upwards, the jade sea was probably named that after the color of the water (example). before the jade wind, they could get jade from anywhere else. remember that we but explored a very tiny portion of cantha, relatively speaking, and a proficient chunk of information technology was walking on top of an inland body of water, and some other on an oversized slum (neither of which we saw the full extent of). in that location could be jade mines in territory we didn't go to as GW1 characters.
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Aurios Mines was also from the Jade Air current. Only it contains artifacts from well before, frozen in that jade.
I don't retrieve there was any jade before the Jade Current of air, as all jade we know of comes from petrified Jade Ocean. At to the lowest degree in that location wasn't any that we were informed about ever to even potentially exist.
Merely and so again, why would anyone mine jade from elsewhere? The jade from the Jade Sea is outright stated to hold magical properties – and the Jade Quarry's jade held the riches of these properties (which is why it was frequently fought over, since Kurzicks need that magical jade for making juggernauts, while Luxons demand information technology for commerce and armament in their siege turtle cannons).
@Bruno: It seems near probable the Jade Sea was named later the colour of the sea, and that color is likewise probable why it became jade when petrified, rather than say, clear crystal or sapphires (or some other blue-ish gemstone).
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JQ jade must be an atrocious lot better to justify the attempt of going there for it… if the residual of the jade sea was remotely comparable the inflationary effects of having that much of it would be astonishing and there'd be little point trading information technology (except out of Cantha perhaps, but the toll would be almost entirely send costs unless the Empire intentionally restricted quantities). In much the same way water isn't particularly valuable in the real earth.
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What's interesting is if the Jade Body of water indeed is thawing (or melting), what happens to all the jade that has already been mined out of at that place and possibly sold to merchants all over the world? Does that start melting too? Can the Luxons go far problem for substantially selling everyone just plain onetime seawater?
The statue of the Jade Fish that the Zephyrites had… volition that cook into water too? What'due south stopping this from happening?
Aurios Mines was also from the Jade Current of air. But it contains artifacts from well before, frozen in that jade.
I don't think at that place was any jade before the Jade Wind, every bit all jade we know of comes from petrified Jade Ocean. At least there wasn't whatsoever that nosotros were informed about ever to even potentially be.
But and so again, why would anyone mine jade from elsewhere? The jade from the Jade Sea is outright stated to hold magical properties – and the Jade Quarry's jade held the riches of these properties (which is why it was oftentimes fought over, since Kurzicks demand that magical jade for making juggernauts, while Luxons demand it for commerce and armament in their siege turtle cannons).
@Bruno: Information technology seems almost likely the Jade Sea was named after the color of the sea, and that colour is also probable why it became jade when petrified, rather than say, clear crystal or sapphires (or another blueish-ish gemstone).
i brought upwardly the naming thing because some people were using it every bit an argument for a jade mine existing in the sea before the jade wind, which is most as logical as expecting to discover a diamond iceberg in the middle of the bounding main.
i practice recall it's possible, probable in fact, that there was jade earlier shiro screwed everything up. after all, jade is the name of a stone, then it stands to reason that if they named their inland sea "jade sea", and then it's because they had jade to compare colors with in the showtime identify.
as for why mining from the ocean instead of anywhere else, well, that's piece of cake. why become through the obnoxious process that is traditional precious stone mining for minimal results when you accept a whole sea made of the kitten affair? add in magical properties and you lot accept the perfect reason for traditional jade mining to be abased.
What'south interesting is if the Jade Body of water indeed is thawing (or melting), what happens to all the jade that has already been mined out of at that place and possibly sold to merchants all over the world? Does that outset melting too? Tin the Luxons make it problem for essentially selling everyone only manifestly old seawater?
The statue of the Jade Fish that the Zephyrites had… volition that melt into water too? What'southward stopping this from happening?
like i suggested earlier, the process is likely so slow that it would take decades to meet a noticeable divergence on a statue similar the one the zephyrites have. it's very likely that the jade bounding main'south landscape is largely unchanged, save for some bodies of water hither and there.
of course, i have as much ground to fence this as anyone else has to say that the whole kitten thing melted/is melting as fast as an water ice statue in the desert. i just think it stands to reason that something that big would have a very, very boring thawing process, like our polar caps.
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i do retrieve information technology'southward possible, likely in fact, that there was jade earlier shiro screwed everything up. after all, jade is the name of a stone, then it stands to reason that if they named their inland ocean "jade sea", and then it's because they had jade to compare colors with in the first place.
My thoughts exactly.
There is no color called "jade", so the Jade Sea was named afterwards the jade rock.
Maybe the Jade Ocean didn't have whatsoever jade at all before Shiro's "accident" but somewhere in Cantha had a jade quarry.
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I hope that the Jade Bounding main hasn't thawed. As much as I loved the Echovald Forest and the Jade Body of water (they were amongst the most unique environments I have explored in any game, ever), I liked the thought that defeating Shiro slowly began to undo the furnishings of the Jade Wind, and I had become attached to the thought of seeing how Luxon civilization had adapted to the very flooring beneath their outposts slowly melting away from them. Not to mention whatsoever other implications it might have. I also very much liked the thought of exploring the Echovald Forest in all its original beauty, and I always saw a melted Jade Sea every bit an opportunity for Guild Wars 2 to show off its much-touted underwater combat with a region that was largely h2o (this was before release, I should add together :P).
I'm also just opposed to the thought of hinting toward future developments, and and so retconning it, if I'm honest. We also have Jade Wind Orbs, Priory's Historical weapons, and Dragon'due south Jade weapons, so it'due south not like jadeite as a fabric isn't still around a few centuries later; I just hope it'southward because those items were separated from the "main trunk" of jade, or the jade is from another source (as others have speculated in a higher place).
In any event, given how much Tyria has changed since saw it in Club Wars, if Cantha has changed even a fraction every bit much most all of our predictions are bound to be off.
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JQ jade must be an awful lot amend to justify the effort of going there for information technology… if the residue of the jade sea was remotely comparable the inflationary furnishings of having that much of it would be astonishing and there'd be little betoken trading it (except out of Cantha possibly, but the price would be about entirely ship costs unless the Empire intentionally restricted quantities). In much the same way water isn't particularly valuable in the real world.
Except that y'all have to be able to mine it – that's why the Quarry exists, evidently it'southward not as uncomplicated as going out with a pickaxe and hacking away at whatever random bit of the Jade Sea. Just like annihilation else it's a specialised skill, which is what enables them to make money from it. It's no different to farming, technically anyone can get concord of some state and some cows, but that doesn't hateful they're going to be able to turn a profit from information technology.
I don't imagine the Luxons let merely anyone run around on the Jade Bounding main mining it. Not to mention there were extremely unsafe monsters running all around the identify – which is probably one of the major reasons the Quarry functioned well and was able to turn a profit despite the abundance of Jade.
@ Tamias, the Jade Wind Orb contains "jade wind essence", information technology doesn't actually say that it is made out of Jade.
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In whatever event, given how much Tyria has changed since saw it in Social club Wars, if Cantha has changed even a fraction every bit much nigh all of our predictions are bound to be off.
off topic, but since GW2 came out, i've been hoping that kaineng was mostly razed/destroyed in an arson, and about of it was abandoned, leaving room for literally anything other than more than kaineng to replace information technology.
as much equally i love cantha, i am not looking forward to spending half my time in the continent navigating the ugly, brown, repetitive labyrinths that constituted kaineng city. that place was simply obnoxious, and actually caused me to quit the game for months because i couldn't stand it anymore.
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So I went dorsum to Morostov Trail, 1 of the greener Echovold Woods zones from GW1. More simply new plants growing on the rock, I constitute roots and trees that were visibly in the process of turning back into woods. Movie fastened.
What this tells me is that the furnishings of the Jade Wind practise reverse with fourth dimension. Therefore, the Jade Sea should exist turning back into water. The question is: how quickly? Konig, I like your idea that parts accept turned back into ocean but there are still large jadebergs scattered around, hence the sculpture.
I would assume that, given enough fourth dimension, all jade removed from the Sea will return to h2o. However, I would also presume that in that location must exist some magical method of preventing pieces of the jade from reverting. Surely such a method has been discovered by the Luxons over the last 250 years.
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So I went dorsum to Morostov Trail, one of the greener Echovold Forest zones from GW1. More than simply new plants growing on the rock, I found roots and copse that were visibly in the process of turning back into wood. Picture attached.
What this tells me is that the effects of the Jade Wind do opposite with time. Therefore, the Jade Sea should be turning back into water. The question is: how quickly? Konig, I like your idea that parts have turned back into ocean but in that location are yet large jadebergs scattered effectually, hence the sculpture.
I would presume that, given enough time, all jade removed from the Sea will render to water. Withal, I would likewise assume that at that place must be some magical method of preventing pieces of the jade from reverting. Surely such a method has been discovered past the Luxons over the last 250 years.
well the affair is "turning trees into rocks" doesn't continue new plantlife from sprouting, unless the jade wind had some poisonous upshot on the soil that i'm not aware of. then fifty-fifty if it never reversed, the echovald forest would somewhen look like a normal woods again.
the jade sea, on the other manus, used to exist a bunch of water that is now solid. at that place's no room for more water to make full it unless that jade gets out of the way first, so the bounding main is stuck with "lets contrary the magic".
LegendaryMythril/Zihark Darshell
Aye, that's exactly why I went dorsum to those zones: to meet if the greenery was merely new plants growing on the stone, or if the stone was actually reverting. What I found is that both scenarios were occurring.
Presumably this means that, fifty-fifty if the charge per unit of magical reversion was the same, the Forest would render to a natural state faster than the Sea would.
And then I went dorsum to Morostov Trail, i of the greener Echovold Forest zones from GW1. More than than just new plants growing on the stone, I found roots and trees that were visibly in the process of turning back into wood. Picture attached.
What this tells me is that the furnishings of the Jade Wind do contrary with time. Therefore, the Jade Sea should be turning back into water. The question is: how quickly? Konig, I like your idea that parts have turned back into sea but at that place are withal big jadebergs scattered around, hence the sculpture.
I would presume that, given enough time, all jade removed from the Sea volition return to water. Yet, I would also presume that there must be some magical method of preventing pieces of the jade from reverting. Surely such a method has been discovered by the Luxons over the final 250 years.
Maybe highlight the parts of "It turning to forest"? because I don't really encounter whatever of the roots beingness wood similar in that flick, just stone.
Perchance highlight the parts of "It turning to wood"? because I don't actually come across any of the roots beingness woods like in that film, just rock.
Stone parts circled in blue, wood in red. The stone in the forest is all uniformly gray, while parts hither are brownish. Y'all can see the transition clearly on the root in the left-foreground of the picture.
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Okay, to me the only example which I run across that is the far left. All others seem to just be shades of grayness, rock textures… and not wood looking.
Must be a difference in our eyes and so, because I very clearly see the deep, red brown of woods. Particularly if you compare the bottom correct bluish circle (standard Echovold stone color) to the bit direct higher up it.
That looks like a situation of shading and lighting making the gray await dissimilar color. Some are lit up while others are not. I don't see any wood going in there.
Dear ANet writers,
Terminate treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
More important is that we were told in EotN that Echovald was irresolute (though information technology did specify that the growth was new), and that the Jade Sea probably wasn't. If they were the aforementioned, shouldn't they revert at more or less the same charge per unit? And if they were different, why would Echovald changing mean that the Ocean would also change?
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How almost this one then? Hither's a root with flat-out straight line demarcations between the gray and brown parts. I understand the shading argument, particularly since Morostov has a reddish tint to it. But I tin can't look at that chip in the 2d picture and see anything other than wood.
More of import is that we were told in EotN that Echovald was changing (though it did specify that the growth was new), and that the Jade Ocean probably wasn't. If they were the same, shouldn't they revert at more or less the same rate? And if they were dissimilar, why would Echovald irresolute mean that the Ocean would as well change?
You misunderstand me. I said that even if the rate of magical reversion were the same, Echovald would return to "normal" more than quickly b/c this process is aided past the growth of new plants, which are not tied to the magic reverting. Therefore Echovald's return to normal = magic fading + new plants growing in rock, while Jade Bounding main'due south render to normal = magic fading only. The forest has a mechanism which will return information technology to normal even if the magic doesn't fade, whereas the sea does not.
It'due south besides possible that the new plants growing in the stone have the effect of increasing the speed of magical reversion for the woods.
i might exist incorrect, just did ANet ever patch the effects of story events changing the mural? even freaking winds of modify didn't get rid of those kitten ed affected.
i'thou sorry kalarchis, but i think that if those things y'all're showing us have been there since factions was released, then there's picayune point in discussing it.
LegendaryMythril/Zihark Darshell
Source: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Jade-Sea-status-still-frozen
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